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Ashley E Lorance
Gastonia, NC Family Law Lawyer with 14 years of experience
Family and Divorce
Maurice A. Deane School of Law at Hofstra University
I am an attorney based in Gastonia, NC, practicing family law remotely with King Law Offices.
Since I started practicing, I have devoted my energy to trying to efficiently resolve family law cases. I became a NCDRC Certified Mediator for Family Financial cases in 2017 and a NC Board Certified Family Law Specialist in 2020. Clients often come to lawyers when they are stressed or anxious. I truly enjoy helping clients and my best reward is to bring them relief from whatever legal problem they are facing. Please call for a...
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Robert Anthony Hartsoe
Winston-Salem, NC Family Law Lawyer with 31 years of experience
Family, Business, Collections and Divorce
Washington University School of Law
To R. Anthony “Tony” Hartsoe, the law has always felt like a calling, not a job. He loves helping people through some of the toughest moments in their lives. With a family of his own and work experience that dates back to when he was 12 years old, Tony can relate to many of his clients and utilizes his knowledge to aggressively represent them with strength and integrity. He received his Bachelor of the Arts Degree from Oral Roberts University before attending Washington University School of Law. Tony graduated with a Juris Doctor Degree in 1994. Attorney Hartsoe has worked...
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Elise Morgan Whitley
Winston Salem, NC Family Law Lawyer with 23 years of experience
(336) 768-1515
119 Brookstown Avenue
Suite 400, Kurtz Evans Whitley
Winston Salem, NC 27101
Family and Divorce
Wake Forest University School of Law
“Board Certified Specialist” in family law by The North Carolina State Bar – 2006 to present
Rated “AV” Preeminent (Judicial Edition), the Highest Possible Rating in both legal abilities and ethical standards reflecting the confidential opinions of members of the Bar and Judiciary – Martindale-Hubble / Lexis-Nexis – 2013 to present
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Jason David Witt
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 20 years of experience
(704) 493-6851
301 S. McDowell St, Suite 1014
Cameron Brown Building
Charlotte, NC 28204
Family, Bankruptcy, Criminal Defense and Divorce
Wake Forest University School of Law
Was born and raised in Charlotte, NC.
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Zachary D Jackson
Monroe, NC Family Law Attorney with 17 years of experience
Family, Divorce, Estate Planning and Probate
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
Zachary D. Jackson graduated from the University of North Carolina School of Law. Prior to attending Law School, Mr. Jackson graduated Magna Cum Laude from Campbell University where he majored in Business Administration with a Specialty in Trust and Investment Management and minored in Financial Planning. Mr. Jackson also received his Masters in Business Administration from Campbell University. Mr. Jackson worked for several years as a Trust Officer with Bank of America prior to attending law school. Prior to opening his own law practice, Mr. Jackson worked with two law firms and held an...
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Ketan Soni
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 24 years of experience
Family, Divorce and Estate Planning
Wake Forest University
I represent clients going through divorce and family law issues, including separation agreements and prenuptial/premarital agreements, alimony, equitable distribution, child support and custody. I mediate cases for spouses that cannot reach a resolution on their own. My divorce practice across North Carolina gives me a wide range of experience on how judges rule.
I created a free downloadable North Carolina Child Support Calculator which reflects North Carolina's statutes. This can be found by contacting our firm.
Other attorneys also hire me to mediate their clients' disputes prior to going to court. I advance the practice and knowledge of law for...
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Danica Lynn Little
Mooresville, NC Family Law Lawyer with 20 years of experience
Family, Elder, Estate Planning and Probate
Florida State University College of Law
Charlotte Wills, Trusts, Probate Law, Estate Planning; Guardianships, Elder Law, Special Needs Planning, Asset Protection; Business Succession Planning; Estate, Gift and Income Taxation; Estate Administration; Business Law
Mecklenburg County (Member, Tax Section) and North Carolina (Citizen-Lawyer Task Force) Bar Associations; South Carolina Bar (Member, Tax Section); Charlotte Women's Bar Association (Board Member; Secretary; Treasurer; Vice President; President, Past Chair); American Institute of Certified Public Accountants; North Carolina Association of Certified Public Accountants (Member, Taxation Committee); Institute of Management Accountants; Charlotte Christian Chamber; Women's Initiative Network, Make-A-Wish Foundation of Western and Central North Carolina; Carolina Foster Kids Foundation Director.
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Courtney L. Carter
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 11 years of experience
Family and Divorce
Kent State University and Charlotte School of Law
Courtney Carter is originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but has resided in the Charlotte area since 2011. Prior to relocating to Charlotte, Courtney pursued her undergraduate degree at Kent State University. She graduated with her Bachelors of Science Degree in Business Management with a focus of Pre-Law in three years. During her time at Kent State University, Courtney had the opportunity to perform an internship with one of Pennsylvania’s State Senators. During Courtney’s time with the Senator’s office, she was able to assist constituents with government assistance programs, as well as organize events for children, veterans and senior citizens.
While in law...
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Matt Arnold
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 21 years of experience
Family, Business, Divorce and Personal Injury
University of North Carolina School of Law
Mr. Arnold is an experienced trial attorney who has tried bench and jury trials in both North Carolina District Court and North Carolina Superior Court and has argued cases in front of the North Carolina Court of Appeals, the North Carolina Supreme Court, and the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, VA. Mr. Arnold grew up in Charlotte, and attended Carmel Junior High, South Charlotte Middle, and graduated from Providence Senior High School. Mr. Arnold earned his undergraduate degree in Psychology graduating cum laude from Belmont Abbey College where he received a basketball scholarship and played varsity basketball...
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Anastasia Cowan
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 15 years of experience
Family, Criminal Defense and Juvenile
Capital University
Anastasia Cowan pursued her undergraduate degree at Ohio State University. She was a resident advisor, a member of the Golden Key International Honor Society, and a member of the Women’s Glee Club.
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Courtney Roller
Thomasville, NC Family Law Lawyer with 11 years of experience
Family, Divorce, Domestic Violence and Estate Planning
Elon University
Courtney Roller is a licensed North Carolina attorney and counselor at law. She earned her law degree from Elon University School of Law. Prior to law school, Courtney attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and earned a B.A. in journalism and mass communication. She is a certified legal observer with the National Lawyers Guild and a volunteer with Habitat for Humanity and Red4NC. In 2013 Courtney was recognized by the National Association of Women Lawyers for her achievements, motivation and drive. in 2015, Courtney was elected secretary of the District 22b Bar Association. She is a member...
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Ron Payne
Kernersville, NC Family Law Attorney with 13 years of experience
Family, Business, Estate Planning and Probate
Wake Forest University
Mr. Payne is the CEO & Managing Partner of Apple Payne Law, PLLC, which he co-founded with retired attorney Bill Apple after owning his own firm Payne Law, PLLC. Mr. Payne's practice areas are estate planning, probate & business advising, and the firm also has family law and real estate teams to serve the full family's needs. Mr. Payne started the practice of law when he founded Payne Law, PLLC after graduation from the Wake Forest University School of Law in 2011.
Before attending Wake Forest University School of Law, Mr. Payne attended Florida Coastal School of Law, where he was...
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Steven W Grainger
Winston-Salem, NC Family Law Attorney with 15 years of experience
Family and Divorce
Florida Coastal School of Law and University of North Carolina School of Law
I will try any case, anytime, anywhere, if the cause is just.
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Lloyd Thomas Kelso
Gastonia, NC Family Law Attorney with 48 years of experience
Family, Divorce, Domestic Violence and Personal Injury
University of South Carolina School of Law
Born: 1950, Gastonia, North Carolina
Wife: Mary Elizabeth Kelso
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Joshua W Goodman
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 12 years of experience
(980) 819-0021
301 South McDowell Street, Suite 506
Charlotte, NC 28204
Family, Divorce, Domestic Violence and Juvenile
Charlotte School of law
Growing up in Charlotte, North Carolina I learned to focus my energy on finding a solution rather than worrying about the problem. This mindset inevitably led me to my profession as an attorney. I graduated from the University of South Carolina with a business degree in Economics. I immediately began work in the financial field helping people navigate the world of small business loans. The following year I received the Fourth Ward Scholarship to attend Charlotte School of Law. While attending Charlotte School of Law I had the opportunity to gain valuable experience through internships with the Mecklenburg...
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David A. Concha
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 24 years of experience
Free ConsultationFamily, Business, Divorce and Workers' Comp
Indiana University Maurer School of Law
My main area of practice is Immigration Law. I am the son of Immigrants. However, I also, handle uncontested divorce, criminal defense for most misdemeanors, name changes and legitimation, personal injury and workers compensation.
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James Stroud
Winston-Salem, NC Family Law Attorney with 44 years of experience
(336) 724-2600
102 West Third Street, Suite 650
Winston-Salem, NC 27101
Family, Business, Elder and Estate Planning
Wake Forest University School of Law
Keith Stroud is a 25+ year veteran of the practice of law. Keith supports businesses in the Triad, spouses going through a separation and divorce, individuals and couples through estate planning, executors and administrators handling the estate of a loved one, and seniors and their family members in long term care and asset protection matters. He provides a straightforward and comprehensive approach to legal representation, and offers unique solutions designed to meet the goals of his clients.
While Keith’s practice is structured to help his clients avoid litigation, he is first and foremost a trial lawyer. His civil and past criminal...
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John J. Barrow
Kernersville, NC Family Law Lawyer with 33 years of experience
Free ConsultationFamily, Criminal Defense, DUI & DWI and Domestic Violence
Campbell University
John Barrow has 27 years of Trial Experience in District and Superior Court in Piedmont North Carolina, Primarily Forsyth County, Kernersville and Winston Salem, NC. John is a relentless advocate inside and outside the courtroom. Enjoys an excellent reputation among the Forsyth County Bar and clients alike. Aggressive, knowledgeable and effective. Award winning Criminal Defense. Publishes an annual Law Calendar addressing DWI and Criminal laws and issues in trials and sentencing. Prior life - Grocery store manager, carpenter, mechanic, restaurateur, Racer. Enjoys - Life, Wife and Family - Plans and Projects. ...
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Benjamin Hefferon
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney
Family and Divorce
North Carolina Central University
Ben Hefferon is a highly rated divorce and family law attorney with extensive experience in handling cases related to divorce, equitable distribution, child custody, visitation, and spousal support.
A graduate of North Carolina Central School of Law with High Honors, Ben is committed to achieving favorable outcomes for his clients through both court proceedings and negotiations.
His dedication to the field and his ability to navigate complex family law issues make him a valuable advocate for those he represents.
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Kelly J Brown
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 12 years of experience
(704) 271-5000
7300 Carmel Executive Park Drive, Ste 300
Charlotte, NC 28226
Family, Business, Foreclosure Defense and Real Estate
Campbell University
I am licensed to practice law in North Carolina, South Carolina & Tennessee. I am an attorney with McGrath & Spielberger, PLLC, where my areas of practice include real property (including loss mitigation and foreclosure defense) and business law. I received a Juris Doctor from Campbell University School of Law and a Master of Business Administration from Campbell University Lundy-Fetterman School of Business, as part of the joint JD/MBA program. I attended North Carolina State University and graduated with a B.A. in Psychology. Currently, I am pursuing an LL.M. (Master of Laws) postgraduate law degree in...
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James Spielberger
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 24 years of experience
(800) 481-2180
7300 Carmel Executive Park Drive, Ste 300
Charlotte, NC 28226
Family, Business, Employment and Foreclosure Defense
Georgia State University College of Law
My legal and business experiences enable me to offer clients a broad spectrum of professional services from the unique perspective of someone who is both an attorney and an entrepreneur.
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Eleanor Panetti
Winston Salem, NC Family Law Lawyer with 36 years of experience
(336) 724-2600
102 West Third Street, Suite 650
Winston Salem, NC 27101
Family, Divorce and Estate Planning
University of North Carolina School of Law
Eleanor Panetti is a Winston-Salem lawyer who has been practicing family law for nearly three decades. Eleanor provides comprehensive legal counsel to men and women involved in family law disputes, to spouses creating and expanding families through adoption, and to those protecting and caring for children of family members. She is skilled and experienced in all matters related to divorce, custody and paternity, property settlement and support, the legal issues unique to the LGBT community, and those specific to senior populations.
Eleanor is passionate in her representation of people involved in family disputes, whether through divorce, supporting parents through child custody...
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Dmitriy Panchenko
Matthews, NC Family Law Lawyer with 8 years of experience
Family, Business, Personal Injury and Real Estate
Charlotte School of Law
Whether civil or criminal, the legal process can be very frustrating, intimidating, and the outcome may seem too uncertain. As such, Dmitriy understands the importance of maintaining prompt communication and step-by-step comforting guidance. He also strongly believes that every case is defensible and that every client deserves the utmost dedication and attention.
Dmitriy graduated from UNC Charlotte, Magna Cum Laude, with a degree in Finance. He further attended the Charlotte School of Law and graduated Cum Laude. Dmitriy now works as a Managing Partner at Biazzo & Panchenko Law, PLLC, and serves Charlotte and surrounding areas (Mint Hill,...
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Kara K. Goodman
Matthews, NC Family Law Attorney with 15 years of experience
Family and Divorce
Charlotte School of Law
Kara Goodman is a dedicated, experienced, and compassionate lawyer who practices in the area of family law. As a child of parents that divorced before she was 10 years of age, Kara developed a passion for family law at an early age. She obtained her Bachelor of Arts Degree from the University of North Carolina at Asheville, majoring in psychology and minoring in sociology. Kara ultimately settled in Charlotte, North Carolina where she obtained her Juris Doctorate and began her legal career.
Kara spent her first two years of practice with a small law firm in Concord, North Carolina, spending...
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Theresa Viera
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 12 years of experience
Family, Divorce and Domestic Violence
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
The unknown is a scary place for any individual, especially for a person whose family is undergoing a significant transition through divorce, a child custody dispute, a domestic violence situation, or even a hopeful adoption. Although I cannot tell you exactly what course your situation will take, I can help you navigate the legal system while addressing each concern and question. I strive to educate my clients about the law so they can make informed decisions about what is most precious in their lives. Whether you are a business owner employing multiple individuals and supplying income for even...
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Joel C. Harbinson
Taylorsville, NC Family Law Attorney with 45 years of experience
(828) 632-4264
70 East Main Avenue
P. O. Box 400
Taylorsville, NC 28681
Free ConsultationFamily, Criminal Defense, DUI & DWI and Divorce
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
Joel C. Harbinson attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and graduated in 1977 with an A.B. degree and from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Law in 1979 with a J.D. degree. He has been self-employed since 1979 as a criminal, domestic, and personal injury attorney in Taylorsville. In addition, Joel is a certified mediator in Superior Court cases, receiving accreditation from the N.C. Dispute Resolution Commission in 1998, and is a certified arbitrator in District Court cases.
Joel is the former President of the 22nd Judicial District Bar Association (1987-1988, 1999-2000) and a...
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Corey A. Noland
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 6 years of experience
Family, Divorce and Domestic Violence
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
Corey Noland, a native of Union County, North Carolina is a dedicated family law attorney with a focus on cases such as divorce, child custody, and prenuptial agreements. He graduated from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte and the University of North Carolina School of Law with honors. Mr. Noland primarily handles cases in Union County, Mecklenburg County, Cabarrus County, Gaston County, and Iredell County, and is committed to guiding clients through the challenging process of domestic litigation.
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Eric S Meredith
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 16 years of experience
In developing my philosophy in how I practice law, I realized from the beginning that people are coming to me because they need help and they trust me to help them in their time of need. I enjoy doing what I do because it provides me with an opportunity to make a difference in people’s lives. Quick Facts about Eric Eric is a scratch golfer. Eric is an avid University of Tennessee football fan.
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Ms. Kelly Frecker
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 7 years of experience
Family, Business, Foreclosure Defense and Real Estate
University of Miami School of Law
I represent clients in the states of Florida, North Carolina & South Carolina in various types of legal matters, including but not limited to business law and real estate law. My career has followed a dual trajectory in litigation and corporate practice. I’ve acted as general counsel to several small businesses with regard to business development and contract work while also representing individuals and entities in complex business litigation matters relating to contract disputes, lender and financial liability matters, and real estate transactions. at both the state and federal level. My previous experience as a judicial clerk gave me insight...
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Wendy Smith
Archdale, NC Family Law Lawyer with 7 years of experience
Family and Criminal Defense
After a failed marriage of 26 years, 5 children and a two year custody battle; I knew becoming a family lawyer was my dream.
I have been a nurse since 1991, I spent the first years of my career delivering babies at Forsyth Hospital. After 5 years, I discovered that I really wanted to be at home with my children and I started a Nursing Triage Company that now operates in almost 1/2 of the United States.
I had the perfect life, a company that was successful and allowed me to be a mom. Then; my life was turned upside...
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Mr. Charles David Hatley
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 11 years of experience
Family
The University of Toledo College of Law
Melone Hatley, PC attorney Charles D. Hatley has made a career of practicing family law because of the opportunity it gives him to help families through such a critical juncture. “I am passionate about helping individuals through trying times and protecting their rights so they can concentrate on their personal lives,” Mr. Hatley said. The divorce process can be highly confusing for many people. Getting bogged down in all the legal jargon and procedures can be incredibly frustrating when so much is at stake. Mr. Hatley walks through each step of the process to make sure his clients...
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James Leigh Epperson
Concord, NC Family Law Attorney with 34 years of experience
Family, Divorce and Domestic Violence
Mercer University
The founding attorney and partner of Epperson Law Group, James L. Epperson, has served in the Navy JAG Corps before founding his family law practice in Weddington and Charlotte, North Carolina. In his work with the Navy, Attorney Epperson represented servicemen and women through courts-martial cases, as well as handling high-stakes negotiation for the release of Navy service members from foreign captors in the Middle East. This high-stress work has prepared him for the stressful and emotionally trying world of family law, where he provides counsel and litigation services, as well as mediation and arbitration, for those facing divorce, custody...
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Jason McGrath
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 29 years of experience
(800) 481-2180
7300 Carmel Executive Park Drive, Suite 300
Charlotte, NC 28226
Family, Business, Foreclosure Defense and Real Estate
Partner Jason A. McGrath is licensed in Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, & Federal Court. He’s a problem solver, a transactional attorney, a litigator, & draws on his roots as a (former) Assistant District Attorney. Jason handles a variety of matters, including but not limited to real estate matters & foreclosures; business & commercial law matters; and creditor - debtor disputes. He focuses on the practical as well as the legal, always keeping the short, medium, and long-term strategies in mind. Jason prefers a polite and professional approach; assertive as needed, but also trying to be a decent human being.
Jason...
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David C. Herring
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 12 years of experience
Family, Arbitration & Mediation and Divorce
University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
I grew up in the small town of Ahoskie, North Carolina, in the eastern part of the state. After I finished high school, I studied architecture at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville. I developed an interest in aesthetics, form, proportion, and design. All these things are instrumental in my law practice, which, I believe, are to my clients’ advantage. After finishing college, I moved to Charleston, South Carolina, where I spent several years doing freelance architectural renderings and enjoying the beauty of the Lowcountry. After living in Charleston, I shifted gears to attend law school....
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Jamie Teague
Charlotte, NC Family Law Attorney with 16 years of experience
Free ConsultationFamily, Criminal Defense, DUI & DWI and Domestic Violence
Washington University School of Law
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Kate Bowles Miller
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 18 years of experience
Family, Arbitration & Mediation and Divorce
University of South Carolina School of Law
I am a Board Certified Specialist in Family Law, and a Certified Family Financial Divorce Mediator. My practice is intentionally focused on helping each of my Clients work through their separation, divorce, or child custody issues without having to step foot in a Courtroom. I have seen first hand the damage that is done to parents and children going through family law litigation. It is my goal to help each Client navigate their family law issues to move forward with their new, improved life.
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Erica Yarborough
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer
Family, Divorce and Domestic Violence
North Carolina Central University School of Law
Erica Yarborough was born and raised in Davidson County, North Carolina. She attended Central Davidson High School and obtained her undergraduate degree from Appalachian State University. She then received her Juris Doctor from North Carolina Central University School of Law. Erica now focuses her practice on family law cases, including divorce, child custody, child support, alimony, domestic violence, and equitable distribution, in Mooresville, NC.
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Chris Beddow
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 10 years of experience
Free ConsultationFamily, Criminal Defense, DUI & DWI and Domestic Violence
University of South Carolina School of Law
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Robert Nason Nye
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer with 23 years of experience
Family, Criminal Defense, DUI & DWI and Divorce
Widener University Delaware School of Law
Born in Charlotte, North Carolina, Attorney Rob Nye graduated from The Citadel with a B.A. in History (Honors) and then Widener University School of Law in Wilmington, Delaware, earning his Juris Doctorate. Before entering the private sector of practice, Rob served his country as an Infantry and JAG officer in the United States Army. He deployed with the 3rd Infantry Division in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom III and was awarded the Bronze Star Medal. While on active duty, Rob was lead counsel in over 30 trials, and gained invaluable experience zealously advocating for his clients. Rob has...
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Katlyn Ashley Reh
Charlotte, NC Family Law Lawyer
(704) 565-9106
525 North Tryon Street
Suite 1600, Office 1602
Charlotte, NC 28202
Family and Divorce
University of Miami School of Law
From the time I was a young girl, I always dreamed of opening my own business. My desire to learn more about business led me to attend Manhattan College for undergraduate school, where I majored in Finance and Managerial Science with a minor in Marketing. In college, I discovered my fascination with the law and realized that I wanted to build a career where I could work with clients directly and have the opportunity to help people when they need it most. I graduated from the school of business with my bachelor's degree one year early, and I immediately went...